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Monday, May 13, 2019: This weather has it in for us. Slight improvement coming … or not so much ...

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Get there early to enjoy the Governor's Surf Fishing Tournament at Island Beach State Park this Sunday, May 19. Fishing begins at 6:30 am and registration opens at 5:00 - speed your entry to the beach by having your completed registration form ready!

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Monday, May 13, 2019: This weather has it in for us. Slight improvement coming … or not so much. It’s going to take some time for the ocean to lay down. In the meantime, fish are passing us heading north. No fair. See sneak preview of weekly “Rundown” below.

An early reminder that the LBI traffic lights come back on next Monday, May 20. However, lowered speed limits come into play this week. Don’t get nabbed.

Facebook post: "They lowered the speed limits from Beach Haven to Holgate while I was at the doctors office!"

RUNDOWN: There are many striped bass and bluefish swimming out there that can thank their lucky stars that the sky above has picked now to beat down, driving anglers to distraction. Those anglers are loosing every weather-related expletive at their disposal.

The drawn-out crappified weather stints couldn’t have moved in at a worse time for fishermen. The fish have been  upon us in a dang decent way. In fact, spring angling was heading toward being among the better runs in many a year. Then the honking winds drove boat fishermen off the water. Soon thereafter, it gusted most surfcasters from the ocean’s edge. A few hardcode hangers-on fought the elements, at least long enough to prove the fish were still a-swim. Their weigh-ins inadvertently added to the frustration of the vanquished majority, those less inclined to brave the likes of steady, rainy, unseasonably chilly 20 mph NE winds. It was a grueling case of fish with little capacity to fish for them.

For those unfamiliar with the penchants of piscatorial species in spring, they’re most often only passing through.  It’s imperative to nab them before the catch-‘em window closes. The loss of days on end, at the height of the pass-through, is a bitter vernal pill for anglers to swallow. Again, many merrily swimming fish don’t know they would have been dead ducks if not saved by radical skies.  

Speaking as if sky things will soon take a break, striped bass are running large, many being caught are in that nice take-home range of between 28 and 35 inches. The multitudinous schoolies we had seen a few weeks back have disappeared to a major degree, meaning it will take some significant wet-line time to cajole a bass, though the odds of it being something sizeable are good.

Bluefish have been sparse, though typically fierce when available. There have been no concentrated bluefish showings, per se, but the overall cumulative take of choppers, some into the teens-of-pounds, has made it an almost fair bluefish spring to date. To repeat: If things will settle the hell down, there should be some lingering gators to be had for a couple/few weeks to come.

Troublingly, the more edible smaller blues, once a mainstay of May, are barely showing. There were not-long-ago springs when I’d load up on tailor/tinker/cocktail/eater blues. It was great fun taking them while fishing poppers atop the Middle Ground shallows off Beach Haven. Now, things have down-ticked to near nothingness on the spring and fall eater-bluefish front.

Blue Morning, Blue Day, won’t you see things my wa

If any other species displayed such a weird downturn, we’d be hearing cries of overfishing or global warming. Not so much with Pomatomus saltatrix (bluefish), a surprisingly unique species, the only existing member in the family Pomatomidae. It is possibly the most cyclically inclined fish species in the sea. It is notorious for coming and going and coming back again. They’ll disappear on a dime, for decades, then suddenly reshow like gangbusters; no apparent rhyme or reason.

There are mongo black drum now being caught; fish well over 50 pounds. Smaller models are also in the mix, including the edible one still showing stripes. The prime zone for our area is near and well inside Little Egg Inlet, though some smaller black drum are coming out of the surf. There’s always a chance at a world-class black drum showing surfside, like the 100-pound-class one caught in Beach Haven not that many years back.   

Below: Anyone have info on this (assumed)local photo? It reached me by email with no info.

I saw a photo of a mid-sized keepable red drum taken in the LBI surf. Nothing would be finer than to have this once remarkably abundant species re-show in a major way, helping to take up some of the slack from other waning fisheries, like weakfish and possibly bluefish. That said, there are scant few signs of a red drum return of any great volume.

Folks are asking about any blowfish action, which traditionally begins about now, as spawners head into Barnegat Bay. Due to hyper-riled water conditions, it’s hard to determine what smaller gamefish might be arriving out there. I’m guessing some captains, jonsing for something to do, will resort to bayside chumming for panfish, while waiting for the coast clear. Going with smaller hooks, they’ll be able to check for any kingfish, blowfish, small weakfish and such. Unfortunately, it’s a bad time to keep blowfish, which are ripe for spawning.

Crabbing aficionados are singing the blueclaw blues because of the weather. This fair-weather fishery had been showing decently on the mainland side of the bay. Clearing skies might offer a read my this coming weekend.

A couple brown sharks have shown already; a tad early. While I always risk the wrath of the regulation gods, which prohibit even hooking into this species, the browns have become a viable catch-and-quickly-release summer species, especially after dark.  With shark protection being what it is, i.e. strict as all get-out, this is close to a burgeoning species at a time when de-burgeoning is the norm. In fact, we should be loaded with them – a humanly harmless species – starting mainly next month.

Lighthouse Sportfishing Report
Capt. Alex <lhsportfishing@comcast.net>
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I wonder if this year will be like last when it comes to rain. We are already about 2”+ above normal. Hey, at least my lawn looks good. LOL Having finished up dedicating countless hours of my time to scouting for the World Series of Birding (WSB) both the Debbie M and I are ready for fishing. Speaking of the WSB, my did it. Meaning we won the Limited Geographic Area category of the WSB!  We checked off 155 species of birds after driving 295 miles and walking 14.9 miles during our 21 hour stint. In the picture attached I am with David LaPuma of the Cape May Bird Observatory accepting the first place award for our competitive category of the World Series of Birding. No down to fishing. Lots and lots, did I say lots? Of short bass in the bay with a few keepers mixed in. The first of the big girls just arrived of our beaches over the weekend. Bluefish from small to slammers over 10 pounds finally showed up last week and when the weather is nice are chewing. Fluke season does not until May 25th

On the nature side of things: During the WSB on Saturday a total of 254 species of birds were report in the Garden State. To put that into some sort of perspective, there have been around 1,000 species of birds reported in North America since bird species have been recorded. Therefore, 25% of all birds were reported in NJ in one day. That is mind blowing to a bird nerd like me ;) 

I still have lots of open dates so give me a call to get in on the hot fishing we have right now which should continue for many weeks to come. 

Screaming drags, 

Capt. Alex

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The big stripers have arrived off of Island Beach State Park. Did we catch any? No, I thought it was a little rough to challenge the roller coaster of an inlet and the steady three foot chop outside, but the guys that went caught 30 to 40 plus pound fish trolling bunker spoons in the normal haunts.
 
There's some decent bass to be had on clams inside the bay. Did we catch any? No, after an hour and a half of nothing we set up on a fish that dumped 100 yards of line off a 20 class conventional, then came to the surface to show us that big dorsal fin and broom tail. Just as we starting working her back on the surface, the hook pulled.
 
So, as much as this is a non-catching report for me and the Hi Flier this past weekend, we are gearing up for redemption this week and weekend. The long range forecast looks really good for fishable sea conditions. The plan is to troll spoons for the big fish in the ocean, cast lures in the inlet for school bass and blues, and even anchor up and clam for mixed size stripers.
 
Sailing Open Boat or Charter Sat May 18, Sun May 19, and Mon May 20. 7AM to 2PM.
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Carl Hartmann to American Angler

Big girl released. Hudson Beacon area
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Jim Hutchinson Sr. 

Spring weather is slowly arriving in Southern Ocean County, and the captains of the Beach Haven Charter Fishing Association are preparing for the current fishing season. At the same time these captains and the members of their famed Junior Mates Program have embarked on an ambitious goal.

This group of teenagers and seasoned captains have taken it upon their shoulders to spearhead a campaign to refresh the local artificial fishing reefs. The two closest reefs to Little Egg Inlet are the Little Egg and Garden State South reefs.

In the 1990’s the state of New Jersey under the direction of state biologist William Figley built a series of reefs off the coast designed to improve fish habitat. With funding from sport fishing groups and enthusiasts, objects were placed on the sand bottom. These objects included bridge debris, old boat, tanks, specially made concrete igloos, and other materials.

All materials used to form the reefs had to be thoroughly cleaned, inspected, and transported to the reef sites. Over the years these reef materials began to sink into the sand, and in many locations are barely above the ocean floor. It has become obvious that these reefs need to be refreshed with new materials to become effective again as good marine habitat.

William Figley has retired from his state position but remains very interested in the reefs both as their original architect and as an avid angler himself. Ne has agreed to served as the chairman of the Junior Mate Reef Project.

The BHCFA has been in touch with the state and been given approval to go ahead with their efforts. Their main goal right is to raise about $100,000 to fund the purchase of materials and have the cleaned materials placed on the reef sites.

Captain John Lewis is president of the BHCFA and will be presenting the group’s plan along with Figley at a meeting of the Beach Haven Borough Council on Monday, May 13, at 7pm. The other Long Beach Island mayors have been invited to the meeting along with any others interested in hearing more about the project.

Fund raising efforts have already begun including some sizeable donations from area residents, and a Go Fun Me page has been established. Additional information on the reef project can be obtained by going to the website www.BHCFA.org and clicking on the icon for the reef project.

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Below: Scott Bailey to Betty and Nicks Bait and Tackle Fishing Club
Little schoolie caught on flea and jig only fish I saw today
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I am yet to put this lure in the hands of a fisherman, and that fisherman tell me they dont think this will catch fish. This lure is going to change how we marlin fish in the mid Atlantic. There will be fish weighed in tournaments that were caught on this lure. This bait allows you to specifically target the bigger fish that are feeding on mackerel, not flying fish, and use a j-hook while you do it.

I am currently in the process of filming a video of how to use the bait in various different ways, like how to rig the bait onto a teaser chain or dredge, how to rig and pull the bait with a j-hook, behind a lure, or slow trolled with the built in circle hook Ringer Swivels setup.

We will start taking orders on Monday. We will try to process orders and get them shipped as fast as possible. There are 2 different sizes, 2 different colors, and 2 different configurations of baits- where that bait can be made to use either as a teaser, or vaccuum packed our own fish oil blend to be used as a hook bait. We have a decent supply in storage, but each order, each bait, is hand made in America, and made to order, so it may take a couple days to process and ship some orders. Either way, dont wait until the week before you need them and expect that we can rush them to you. Orders will be filled in the order which they recieved. We will have special rates next week, we will always have bulk rates for large orders, and we will offer Express and international shipping options.

A full spread of these baits with dredges, chains, and hook baits will be a game changer and will give you an advantage over the ballyhoo fishing crowd. Stinky TINKY

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Does this count as a plug? Only one catching past 2 nights wouldn’t touch anything else, guys throwing tsunami shads asking me what I was using. Fishaholic Dark Matter Shad! Check them out, I bought 6 packs before posting this. That’s after 10 blues and 20 bass to 32 inches. Highly recommend.
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Current situation: Chuck & Kevin, LBIFC members with their weigh in’s say the fish don’t mind a lil rain and 30 + mph winds... 
Kevin, 13.92 lbs, 34” & 18 1/4 girth 
Chuck with his cow! 25.80 lbs, 41” & 21 1/2 girth. (NON TOURNAMENT). HC, bunker. Well done guys~Jerry

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Can someone ID this please. ... (Guess: Steve Cantalupo Eurojett from Louis Q. Azcueta)

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Readiness saves lives ... times Nine 

Two Alaska Fishing Vessels Sink With No Lives Lost, Thanks to Skipper and Crew Safety Awareness


May 13, 2019

Within one week, two Alaska fishing vessels ran into trouble at sea and had to abandon ship, a last resort for any mariner, but in both cases a move that resulted in the safe recovery of all nine individuals with no injuries.

The most recent US Coast Guard rescue occured yesterday south of Adak Island, after the F/V Clyde after began taking on water after it reportedly hit a rock. The Clyde is a halibut vessel and presumed to be fishing at the time of the incident. 

For nearly 20 years, the Clyde has conducted surveys for the International Pacific Halibut Commission, part of a fleet of survey vessels that gather annual data on the stock of Pacific halibut off the coast of Alaska, British Columbia, and the U.S. West Coast. Damage to the vessel is currently unknown.  

“Multiple factors played a role in the survivability of these individuals,” said Lt. Danny Piazza, Coast Guard District 17 command duty officer. “Having a working and registered EPIRB along with the quick thinking to abandon ship into the life rafts allowed us the time and information needed to arrive on scene and perform and safe and timely rescue.”

Coast Guard District 17 command center watchstanders received an Emergency Position Indicating Radio Beacon alert from the F/V Clyde. Watchstanders were able to reach the fishing vessel captain’s wife who confirmed he was aboard the vessel relative to where the alert was coming from.

Shortly after, the captain’s wife called the Coast Guard and notified that she received a phone call from her husband stating the Clyde was sinking and all four people were abandoning ship into life rafts.

Watchstanders quickly diverted the Coast Guard Cutter Alex Haley with a An MH-65 Dolphin helicopter crew aboard. They also launched a Coast Guard Air Station Kodiak C-130 Hercules aircraft crew.

The Dolphin helicopter crew arrived on scene and located one life raft and one Zodiac with all four people aboard headed towards the shore. The Dolphin crew waited for the survivors to make it to shore, landed nearby, embarked the four survivors and transported them to Adak clinic where they were evaluated with no reported medical concerns. 

The Hercules aircraft landed in Adak and transported the survivors back to Air Station Kodiak.

Last Tuesday, five fishermen were airlifted by the Coast Guard from a life raft near Sitka after they were forced to abandon their halibut schooner F/V Masonic. The 62-foot legacy boat was taking on water after hitting rocks. 

“This case highlights how being prepared for an emergency situation is critical in the dangerous environment that we live and work in,” said Capt. Stephen White, Sector Juneau Commander. “I’m thankful that the crew of the Masonic was prepared. It probably saved their lives. In addition, the AIS position from the vessel was instrumental in our ability to quickly locate the survivors, as it took the ‘search’ out of ‘search and rescue.’”

A few days before the vessel left Sitka the crew had conducted an abandon ship drill, including donning the survival suits.

At approximately 2:33 a.m. Tuesday, Coast Guard watchstanders monitoring Channel 16 heard “Mayday, vessel Masonic going down.”  Watchstanders located the vessel’s last position south of Cape Decision via their automatic identification system (AIS) after attempts to raise the caller on the radio were unsuccessful.

A MH-60 Jayhawk helicopter and Sitka-based crew and the Petersburg-based Cutter Anacapa were called to the area. The cruise ship Oosterdam responded to offer assistance.

It took about an hour and a half from the Mayday call to reach the liferaft, with all five people aboard wearing cold weather survival suits. 

The crew of the Masonic had requested and received a commercial fishing vessel dockside examination prior to departing on this fishing trip. A Sitka-based Coast Guard commercial fishing safety specialist examined the vessel and its equipment, including verifying the presence of emergency gear.

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We don't just love eating fish: 

According to the 2007 National Pet Owners Survey, pet preferences in America are as follows:
  • 142 million freshwater fish.
  • 88.3 million cats.
  • 74.8 million dogs.
  • 24.3 million small animals.
  • 16 million birds.
  • 13.8 million horses.
  • 13.4 million reptiles.
  • 9.6 million saltwater fish.
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Coastal Daybreak Radio Show WTKF 107.1, FM 1240 AM, Host Ben Ball. Jacob Krause, Guest 11/5/18

I have a return guest Jacob Krause, NC State graduate student working on his Ph.D. We’ve had a number of shows that we talked about speckled trout with Tim Ellis and now we have talked for several years now with Jacob about weakfish/gray trout. Good morning Jacob, so how are things going?

Jacob Krause:  We’re finally at the tail end of the project and we have a lot of results all at once here.

Dr. Bogus: Well having been there…done that, I know the feeling, but unlike you I ended up having a job at another location. I had to finish my thesis writing on Long Island rather than Washington, DC so that took an extra year to finish it up. Why don’t you describe what the project was Jacob, and the approach to deal with the understanding of where the weakfish are. We know that weakfish…we’re down to a one fish 12-inch harvest per day limit, and there is a reason for that. There’s been a big falloff…so what’s the project?

Jacob Krause:  So, a little bit of background. The weakfish have been in decline especially since the mid-2000s and the reason for that has been speculated to be predation, not enough spawners, just a multitude of hypotheses but there hasn’t been a really definitive reason for why that is the case. With the decline, as Dr. Bogus pointed out there’s been more restrictions in the take on these fish and right now we are down to one fish over 12-inches. My work is really looking at understanding why the decline in weakfish has happened over the years. We’ve used multiple approaches in order to get at that, what we call mortality or death of these fish that seems to be driving the population downwards. And one approach that we’ve done is to release telemetered fish. Telemetered fish is fish that we track throughout estuarine systems. To date we’ve released 241-fish. Some of those were in Delaware Bay, the majority of them were here in the Bogue Sound vicinity and we’ve also released some fish in the New River.

Ben Ball:  They’re tags that you can track when you say telemetered.

Jacob Krause:  Exactly, these fish, you actually put receivers that detect these fish within the sounds and there is a large array, a placement of receivers, up and down the East Coast.

Dr. Bogus: Some of these receivers are obviously used for a variety of studies, so you can buy into that right?

Jacob Krause:  Exactly, so there is currently ongoing studies off the coast for sand tigers, cobia, sturgeon, just a plethora, so if these fish go anywhere within about 400- to 600-yards of these receivers they’ll get picked up and we will know that that individual fish mover within that specific vicinity.

Dr. Bogus: You have the telemetry fish, you also did the conventional tagging of quite a few fish with the help from some of our friends.

Jacob Krause:  Exactly, so I had a lot of help from people here in the area especially with finding out where and when to catch these fish. And all the tags we out were $100 tags, very high reward.

Dr. Bogus: You wanted them (the tags) to come back.

Jacob Krause:  We wanted them to come back! And most of those were double tagged fish. Using these two approaches it really came down to that weakfish survival was very low. What we found with the telemetered is that these fish go and overwinter on the Continental Shelf and they should return to the estuaries every spring as they are natal spawners. So much like salmon that come back to the same areas every year, or the same area from which they were spawned so too should weakfish. And what we found is that out of 241 fish, only one fish came back the following spring after that overwintering migration.

Dr. Bogus: Where was that fish located? Where did you find him?

Jacob Krause:  That one was released here near the port (Morehead City) and it came back and was detected the following spring down by Emerald Isle.

Dr. Bogus: So very close to where it started from.

Jacob Krause:  Exactly! But it did make the appearance that it had left the system in the winter and that it had come back in the following spring.

Dr. Bogus: Is there something that you may conclude from the time frame there, like when you can within 100-days 92% of these came back. Is that significant…the time frame?

Jacob Krause:  So the time frame is definitely significant because it’s giving us an idea when this mortality, or when the death is happening for these fish. So for the conventional tagged fish we had about 135 returns out of 3600 tagged fish that we put out. And what we found with that is that 92% came back within 100-days and when we think about that overwintering migration only 5-tags came back after an overwintering migration. So that really points to that these fish are leaving in the winter to deal with the cold water by going off onto the Continental Shelf but they are not coming back the following spring. So both of these really show that we are putting out a lot of tags and very minimal amounts are coming back and it seems to be happening that the mortality is happening during the wintertime.

Dr. Bogus: These fish have…they’re cousins, not kissing cousins, the speckled trout…obviously the biology of these two fish are quite different where they overwinter and probably where even they spawn.

Jacob Krause:  Yes, so there is some overlap within the sound but even that I would call they’re different habitats within the sound. So for instance, weakfish here in Bogue Sound you tend to find them in the deeper holes like the port and around the bridges as the speckled trout often times those are found the rock jetties, more the grass beds in the shallower areas and they both have different life history strategies where speckled trout move inshore and overwinter in the creeks and weakfish take the opposite approach and they more offshore to deal with the cold winters.

Dr. Bogus: I’ve noticed that…I can tell when they start to return, I start to catch and actually sometimes mixed in with the speckled trout in like April. Is that usually a time when they come back? And most of the fish that I catch at that time are egg-baring females.

Jacob Krause:  Exactly, so around here, I think the earliest we ever caught them was April-first and about two to three weeks later you could definitely tell, as you said, that they were very ripe, the females. And they were coming in to spawn especially near structure around the inlets and they can spawn multiple times, and that usually occurs from April until July, so that can really put out a lot of larvae.

Ben Ball:  We used to go fishing for gray trout or weakfish in the Haystacks in around Thanksgiving, that used to be a big time.

Jacob Krause:  There is still some of that direction but it’s very minimal. I’ll say that you’re going to catch a speck more times over than a weakfish. It really seems that there are pockets and they really like structure around the port, the bridges and they are very tidal dependent, usually right around the tail ends of slack tide especially high tide.

Dr. Bogus: Your research has to do with dwindling numbers of weakfish/gray trout, so the first question is what are some possible mechanisms for fish mortality that may be responsible?

Jacob Krause:  There are two ways from our perspective, that it can be through fishing mortality or natural mortality. Fishing mortality as we’ve said before, there’s been a lot of restrictions and that does not seem to be the cause for the decline in weakfish from at least the early 2000s onwards. And in conjunction there’s natural mortality which are things such as predation, climatic events, disease all contribution and the hypothesis with the most support at this point seems to be predation. But we didn’t have an idea of what those predators were and how much of the weakfish population they could actually consume.

Dr. Bogus: Okay, so then the BIG question is what predators are out there that may or may not consume the weakfish and how do you figure that out? Who is eating our fish before we do?

Jacob Krause:  So we did a large review of literature with diet studies and what we found is that striped bass, as a finfish predator definitely consumed weakfish during that winter time period. We also saw that bluefish, summer flounder and spiny dogfish all consumed weakfish, but the most surprising was that bottlenose dolphin also consume weakfish even at higher rates than these finfish predators and to put it into perspective 50% of the diet of a bottlenose dolphin during the winter consists of weakfish.

Dr. Bogus: …and how do we know that?

Jacob Krause:  So I worked with collaborators at NOAA Lab and we looked at the diets of stranded bottlenose dolphins so we can see the stomach contents of those dolphins that washed up and we can estimate their consumption of different prey items like weakfish based on their stomach contents.

Dr. Bogus: What other things do the dolphin eat, were there other top snacks?

Jacob Krause:  Yes there were top snacks and all fell out to be sciaenids which are the fish that make sounds, so 75% of the diet consisted of weakfish, spot and croaker.

Ben Ball:  I noticed on your very colorful chart that for 2013 and 2014 or so looks like it dropped off for the bottlenose dolphin, any speculation there?

Jacob Krause:  Yes, so when we estimated the total consumption for the different predators specific for the bottlenose dolphins we had to take into account that there has been two time periods between 1982 and 2014 where there was a large die-off within the bottlenose dolphin population and those were both due to morbillivirus. And we know that based on the increase in the number of strandings two different time periods, the first being 1988 and the second between 2013 and 2015.

Ben Ball:  Would a decrease in the major predator like that also subsequently lead to an increase in the weakfish?

Jacob Krause:  Yes I would say but our data ends in 2014 so we haven’t seen the product. I will say anecdotally and as we were putting out fish in and 2016 it seems that there were more weakfish and they were of greater size then at the beginning when I started this project in 2014. So there may be some evidence but it’s an ongoing experiment that we will see in future years if the weakfish start to rebound and that there is some good support for this hypothesis.

Ben Ball:  But then again the food chain has played a huge roll. So if the dolphin come back, we may see the weakfish decline.

Jacob Krause:  Exactly, and the other point to bring out with this is that there are other predators, it’s not just bottlenose dolphins. Striped bass have made a resurgence in the last 15 to 20-years bluefish seem to be coming back according to the stock assessments, spiny dogfish are again almost at all time level highs and summer flounder have been rebuilt. So when we have multiple fish species that are being managed for as many as we can for maximum sustainable yield it might be at the detriment of other fish species.

Dr. Bogus: Is it (predation) happening while over wintering at the continental shelf or in transit between the two, because the striped bass aren’t really a deep ocean fish. The flounder go out and spawn in the winter time, they are out off there and I don’t know what the life cycle of the dolphin are, do they spend a lot of time that far offshore?

Jacob Krause:  So, when we think about weakfish going offshore in the wintertime it still remains somewhat of a mystery how far they go out, but it seems it would be within 10 to 15-miles of the shore maybe more depending on the typography of the shelf in that area. And what we find for instance with bottlenose dolphin is that there’s a population that lives between the Virginia boarder and New Jersey during the summer and they come down to North Carolina to overwinter off the nearshore shelf and so weakfish is in that same range and they follow that same movement.

Dr. Bogus: Is there any way Jacob of trying to fold in the mortality of the newly spawned fish that get caught in nets and things of that sort? Or is that really a number that we can’t get to?

Jacob Krause:  It’s a difficult number to get at but there are from a fisheries gear perspective and what management does there are different indices that look at the number of fish that are spawned and so we can look at the number of larval fish and get an estimate on how many are there for instance in the summer, we would call “age zeros” and then the following spring we would use other gears maybe fisheries independent gill net survey or trawl surveys and see how many of those survived to the following year.

Dr. Bogus: How do you see this project going? You obviously are moving on, you’re writing things up and getting into cobia I hear, and where do you see this project going? Is there another step to this in either trying to manage of deal with the weakfish situation?

Jacob Krause:  At this point I think the biggest thing is giving the information of what is the most likely reason for the weakfish decline in the population and from there managers and can incorporate that into the stock assessments and really use that information put some management strategies that may help these weakfish come back. It is difficult when there are a lot of other predators that are important to the fishery so sometimes maybe Mother Nature in the form of natural cycles within for instance bottlenose dolphin and striped bass may cause enough weakfish to survive the younger age classes to make it to harvestable size.

Dr. Bogus: It’s interesting when we’re talking to Tim Ellis with the speckled trout, and you now with the weakfish…it seems like in both cases the numbers of fish…the death of the are mostly natural causes. That seems to be the bottom line of both of these studies, is that correct?

Jacob Krause:  Yes, natural mortality is really what shapes the dynamics or fluctuation within these populations and that makes it very difficult from a management perspective because managers can regulate harvest but you can’t tell a bottlenose dolphin not to eat a weakfish!

Ben Ball:  Dr. Bogus you were talking about troutsicles for the speckled trout does that similarly affect the weakfish at all?

Jacob Krause:  No, they should not be inshore in that amount where they would have the massive die-offs from the cold.

Dr. Bogus: They have taken another strategy than the speckled trout…

Jacob Krause:  Which has its own costs and benefits as we have seen from the data here.

Dr. Bogus: Apparently so! Do you know what the major predator for the speckled trout are?

Jacob Krause:  I have not looked at that so I’m not sure, but probably with what Tim Ellis has found it was COLD honestly is really the shaper of that! But anything, I would think bluefish, or anything that would interact within certain season, bluefish and other species like that.

Dr. Bogus: The number of the 1% survival from offshore to inshore plus or minus…

Jacob Krause:  There is uncertainty in there but it shows that the magnitude of how many are not coming back.

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