Daily Fishing and Outdoor Report

June 25, 09 -- Catch-up on emails and such -- more later today

Thursday, June 25, 2009: Waves: 2- to 2.5-foot northerly wind swell. Winds: NE at 10 mph (early). Water clarity: Excellent.

Very high potential for bassing today. Waves are down a bit but still loads of stir and bunker are close to beach but not overly present.

Now and again I get totally overridden by work and more work. It’s often right around end of June as The SandPaper picks up drastically in size and intensity. It’s just such a time – in spades. I mention this since I’ve been sadly lacking in responding to the emails and communiqués from folks. Way sorry. As always, I’d be in the dark if it weren’t for your keeping me posted.

Below are just a few emails. Others I’ll use for future blogs.

Jay, thanks for the lead on the Folsom 250 ,I got some good pic. off the site. still looking for histroy of manufacture. I fished L.B.I. surf at S. B. the 22nd due to the bay being MUD . Two hrs before high hooked up on a 27" striper that was it . I heard a 37 and26 lbs was caught the day prior . We more to the light house due to the rip tide on the surf, I picked up 2/16" and 2/19" fluke it was enough for a meal . Noticed a boat off the light house fishing live spots catching stripers.


Fished the BB surf Monday from 6-9pm. Caught one bass that was just short on bunker. Tons of strands of mussels fouling up the bait and lines. I ran down to Spray Beach and found the same, mussels and weeds and trash fouling up the lines. I went home with a one bass night. Fishing the rest of the week.
Joe H


J,Struggling to submit this report via blackberry. Went out front today in my boat after seeing bunker from the beach. Put my niece Kate onto a fat forty incher.Then came back in an hour later. Life is good.Paul


FishFinder has sent you a message on jaymanntoday Hi Jay, Long time no talk, Hope things are well, Been fishing my backside off with some success. Bass are not around like last year, Had a few banner days. Only had a couple bayside tiderunners this year too. Being doing well on fluke and coctail blues. Sorry I haven't been posted a report in a long time. I a little concerned as to our water shed. Seems like most of the weakies and bass are north and south of us. What could be going on. The big blues made a couple of showings but very scarce. Winter Flounder was way down. Something must be wrong. The bunker don't even seem to want to get close to LBI all that often even though i have had them tight to the beach but just not at the rate we're use to. Has any water testing Been done in barnegat bay that your aware of? I'm thinking the water run off from our very wet spring has to have something to do with it. Anyways, I lost a Tica 7' plug rod with a Penn spinning reel. Was Fishing up against the beach in the was with the boat on a bunker pod and the boat did a 180 as i was untangling a rat nest in one of my guests line. Boat turned bow to beach and didn't realize it. Just grabbed my pole out of the holder as it had a snagged bunker on a treble with braid line. Look up and said Holy crow. Took a 6 foot breaker over the stern. Was pretty hairy situation. One guy on the bow, one in the pilothouse and myself and another guy on the deck. Wave actually took my buddy off his feet. washed him into the bulk head of the pilot house. I ran to the helm quickly dropping my pole on the deck. I was able to turn the boat starboard and put us stern to beach and as we went up the next wave the water all empty out the back of the boat. We struck luck i have a feeling. Nobody hurt and we continued to fish. When I left the helm and went to grab my pole it was gone. It must of washed over the gunnels at some point. Can you please stress safety as I'm a very experienced boater.

This goes to show you that a simple mistake can happen to anyone. Im experienced and it was a hairy few minutes as the deck of the boat was half filled to the gunnels. The rod Lost was a Tica plug rod 7' with a penn reel spinning reel, Braid line and a snag hook on the end and a bunkie. I lost it uptight to the beach in spray beach. I have the spot marked on the gps. Anyone who happens to come across it i will be greatful for its safe return. This set up was a fatherday present 2 years ago. this happened on 06/12/09 Friday evening.


Hello fellow boater/fisherman. Wiley here (Former owner of TheHullTruth) with the latest updates on the new ReelBoating.com Boating & Fishing Forum.



RFA Testifies Before House Resources Subcommittee
Tells Congress Recreational Fishing Activities Must Be Protected

On June 18, Recreational Fishing Alliance (RFA) Executive Director Jim Donofrio testified before the House Natural Resources Committee, Subcommittee on Insular Affairs, Oceans and Wildlife, chaired by Del. Madeleine Z. Bordallo (D-GU). The hearing was convened to review H.R. 21 a bill which would establish a new national policy for our oceans. The RFA was the only recreational fishing organization invited to testify before the Congressional Committee.

Introduced by Rep. Sam Farr (D-CA), H.R. 21 is meant to strengthen the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration while establishing a national and regional ocean governance structure, and for other purposes. According to the RFA, H.R. 21 would add undue bureaucracy to the fisheries management process, to the eventual exclusion of fishermen. Donofrio told House members that the RFA continues to have substantial objections to sections of the bill, and cautioned that any new ocean policies mandated by Congress should not overstep the basic tenets of the Magnuson-Stevens Fishery Conservation and Management Act.

"RFA maintains that Magnuson must remain the nation's primary fisheries law and that any national ocean policy spawned from H.R. 21 provide guidance and recommendations to Magnuson, not supersede it," Donofrio said during the afternoon session, following a nearly three-hour break in testimony due to a heavy calendar of congressional voting.

"Rigid rebuilding requirements under the current Magnuson may not be compatible with a more science based plan such as an ecosystem based approach," Donofrio told Representatives, adding "one must respect the limitations of our current science and not force ecosystem based management simply to advance a political purpose. We must proceed with caution as the consequences to the fishing community and resource could be profound."

Several environmental groups turned out to support the legislation introduced in January, including Senior Officer at Pew Environment Group, Christopher Mann. "The damage to our fish stocks was done over many years and cannot be quickly repaired," Mann said in his testimony, adding "based on the latest National Marine Fisheries Service report to Congress on the status of fish stocks, nearly a quarter of the stocks that have been assessed and have status determinations are overfished, subject to overfishing, or both." The Pew lobbyist went on to say, "I urge the committee to be vigilant in ensuring that from now on science, not politics, maintains the upper hand in fisheries management."

Despite the environmental groups' pressure on Congress for this new overriding oceans legislation, key members of Congress sitting on the committee spoke out against the legislation. "This bill's not going to go anywhere," said Rep. Don Young (R-AK). "You may try to work it through the House, you may have the Speaker help you out, but I'll stop it dead in the Senate, because you're not going to mess with my waters in Alaska, you're not going to mess with my fishermen as you've done in the past," Young added.

Young called H.R. 21 bad legislation," and warned fellow Representatives that the bill was being pushed by "an overzealous group of people," who the Alaska Congressman said is opposed to fishing. "I think possibly the people who wrote this bill have another alternative motive and that's no involvement by Americans, Alaskans, in our waters," Young said of some of the environmental groups supporting H.R. 21. "They're against everything instead of trying to use science to make it work, and that's the group that I do not respect because they're not being up front or being honest."

"Creating a new bureaucracy and potentially costing taxpayers more money is not the right approach," said Natural Resources Committee ranking member Doc Hastings (R-Wash.). "Finding the balance between conserving our ocean and its resources and supporting uses of our resources should be our focus." Subcommittee ranking member Henry Brown (R-SC) echoed Hastings' statement, asking whether such a policy is prudent at this time. "We would be better served to see how the administration moves forward with its process before we move legislation," Brown said.

Donofrio explained that the jurisdiction of the regional councils and Department of Commerce ultimately ends with fishermen, and if ecosystem based management is the goal for the US fishery management system, it would be necessary to first address non-fishing impacts on marine fish stocks. "Ecosystem based management is a data hungry approach and terrestrial and atmospheric stressors impact the marine resources," Donofrio told the Committee, explaining that a variety of ecological processes influence fish populations outside of fishing, including climate and weather change. In written testimony, Donofrio said "RFA supports the concept of ecosystem based management...so long as, humans, including traditional activities such as recreational fishing, are not just considered but protected."

To see transcripts of the testimony and view the subcommittee hearing in its entirety, visit the committee website at http://resourcescommittee.house.gov.


This past Saturday June 20th the "Mako Shark Tournament" was cancelled due to weather. Next Saturday, June 27th the Tuna Tournament will become the Mako Shark / Tuna Tournament.

The Beach Haven Marlin & Tuna Club
IGFA member club since January 11, 1940
Sportfishing History in the Making



An honest report. Fished yesterday evening for an hour or so until the rain chased me off the beach. Nothing. Tried again Monday morning and could not hold bottom with 8 ounces so I called it quits after 20 minutes of trying to work it out. Went again Monday from 5:00pm until 8:30pm. Could not give away bait. Left the beach because the dolphins were hanging around and I figured it was not going to happen. Bunker was the bait, fished BH and south. Next time

The recent horrible weather that southern Ocean County has been experiencing has put a damper on much of the fishing. However, it has not kept all of the boats of the Beach Haven Charter Fishing Association at the dock.
Captain Fran Verdi got the “Dropoff” out fishing for a while Saturday with George, the “Fluke Guy”, to the LE Reef for sea bass. They fished 3 hours in the morning and picked away at sea bass with some bluefish mixed in. Then heavy rains arrived, and they headed home in a torrential downpour. The final tally was six 14-17 inch sea bass and two bluefish. They also caught fluke, scup, and skates, but no dogfish.
Captain Fran says George has been on a streak of bad weather. Known last year as the “Fog and Rain Man,” he may graduate to “Bad Weather George.”
Captain Carl Sheppard on the “Star Fish” said he had a “beautiful day on the water” on Friday despite a miserable weather forecast. After exploring bunker pods for bass with no luck, he did some wreck fishing for over 40 sea bass and some very large porgies in a half day morning trip.
On Saturday he went offshore with a party of 8 anglers where they drifted a number of wrecks until finding a productive spot. They caught over 50 sea bass, bluefish, and fluke. Sunday’s weather cancelled Captain Sheppard’s morning trip, but he managed to fish the back bay in the afternoon for a few fish.
Captain Carl’s mate of 5 years, Tom Masterson has upgraded his license to 50 tons and will be running charters on Sunday afternoons on the “Star Fish.”
Captain John Koegler on “Pop's Pride” fished Saturday and had a good catch of sea bass and bluefish. Two of the bluefish were small snappers less than 8" long which is unusual for June. The group gave stripers a try early but had no hookups.
Captain Koegler has announced that the Junior Mate’s Program of the BHCFA will begin classes this Thursday night, June 25, at the Maritime History Museum on Dock Road in Beach Haven. All interested participants are requested to arrive by 7 pm. Additional information on the classes including phone numbers and the association in general is available at the association’s website at www.fishbeachhaven.com


Jay, went out of BL Saturday 5:30 AM and headed north on a very calm ocean in search of bunker. We finally found some north of the casino pier, and plenty of them. The previous two weekends we were able to locate one bunker school just past the bathing beaches and were rewarded a 35lber for our efforts. With nephew Jason and friend Joe, we all managed our personal best with a 38lber, 44lber and 47lber. The fish were caught between 8:30 and 10:30 AM. We also did see another crew boat a nice fish as well. Sad to say with the lack of bunker pods showing in front of LBI, and now north of IBSP, the bunker could be gone until fall. Let’s hope not!


[Copyright 2009 Scripps Howard, Inc.] By Isaac Wolf - June 24, 2009 - WASHINGTON, A key member of a U.S. Senate panel is drafting legislation to plug a hole in government oversight that allows seafood merchants to routinely rip off customers by substituting cheap fish for more expensive fillets.

The effort by Sen. Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, to reel in such fish fraud comes after a Scripps Television Station Group's investigation found the practice to be pervasive in restaurants in four cities: Kansas City, Mo.; Phoenix; Baltimore and Tampa, Fla.

Snowe said she wants the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, which currently inspects only 2 percent of imported seafood, to ratchet up its checks.

'Frankly, this is unacceptable,' Snowe, the top Republican on the Senate Commerce subcommittee on oceans and fisheries, said in a statement. 'This issue highlights the serious gaps that currently exist within our nation's system for ensuring seafood quality and safety.'

Snowe is working with other members of the Senate Commerce committee to develop legislation that will improve seafood labeling, quality assurance and safety. Earlier, at her request, the U.S. Government Accountability Office examined the issue and also found rampant fraud and little oversight.

The senator is also pushing for better government coordination. 'We will close the gaps that currently allow our consumers to be misled into buying and consuming lower-value -- and potentially unsafe -- seafood products,' she said.

Fish fraud undermines consumer confidence and distorts prices for higher-value fish, Snowe said.

Scripps used DNA testing to find that 23 out of 38 meals served at restaurants in the four U.S. cities were incorrectly marketed as fancier fare. Common substitutions included catfish for grouper and tilapia for red snapper.

Species swapping occurs on several levels, the Scripps investigation found. Some restaurants admitted they intentionally listed the pricier fish on their menus but served the cheaper fillets. In other cases, restaurants blamed distributors for the misrepresentation.

After learning of cheap shellfish being sold as lobster, and similar substitutions for salmon and grouper, Snowe tapped the GAO, the watchdog arm of Congress, in 2007 to investigate.

In February, the GAO recommended that the FDA should work more closely on identifying and preventing the fraud with two other federal agencies: National Marine Fisheries Service, which is part of the U.S. Department of Commerce, and Customs and Border Protection, which is part of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.

But budget constraints are hamstringing federal oversight efforts. An FDA spokesman has said fish fraud isn't a top priority, and a NOAA official said he simply didn't have the manpower to conduct fish spot-checks more than once every month or two.

Currently, the fisheries service examines the quality of only a third of fish imports under a voluntary program in which large purchasers, such as supermarkets and restaurant chains, sign up for the tests, said Spencer Garrett, director of the National Seafood Inspection Laboratory in Pascagoula, Miss. Garrett supports mandatory inspections to determine if fish is what it's purported to be.

Snowe may look to the United States' northern neighbor for legislative and regulatory ideas. Canada has received wide praise for its seafood inspection program, which places extra scrutiny on seafood importers that are new or have a poor track record, said Gavin Gibbons, spokesman for the National Fisheries Institute, a Washington-based industry trade group. Canadian authorities also work with the seafood industry there to keep on top of emerging scams.

The most important thing that a fish fraud law should do? Simply require federal authorities to inspect more seafood imports, Gibbons said.

'Any legislation really should mandate that the FDA enforce the laws on the books,' Gibbons said. 'The mandate to inspect just hasn't been there.'


SEAFOOD.COM NEWS by John Sackton - June 24, 2009 - In a move that shows how much of a priority NOAA is now putting on getting U.S. fisheries into catch share models similar to those which have operated for decades in Alaska, NOAA has created a task force with members for all the management councils and headquarters staff to make sure that catch shares are considered in any amendments to fishery management plans. The task force is expected to report by August 1st.

Monica Medina, senior advisor to the NOAA administrator, will lead the task force.

Transitioning to catch shares is a priority for NOAA, said Medina. This task force will engage stakeholders to help ensure that the regional fishery councils and NOAA implement catch shares wherever appropriate. We must all work together to end overfishing and rebuild fisheries, to improve the economics of fishing and fishing communities, and to protect the ecosystems that sustain them.

Other members include:

John Pappalardo, chairman, New England Fishery Management Council

Dr. Lee Anderson, vice chairman, Mid-Atlantic Fishery Management Council Eric Olson, chairman, North Pacific Fishery Management Council

George Geiger, member, South Atlantic Fishery Management Council Robert Gill, member, Gulf of Mexico Fishery Management Council Dr. David Hanson, member, Pacific Fishery Management Council

Sean Martin, chairman, Western Pacific Fishery Management Council

Dr. Jim Balsiger, acting NOAA assistant administrator for NOAA's Fisheries Service Dr. Steve Murawski, director of scientific programs and chief science advisor, NOAA's Fisheries Service John Oliver, deputy assistant administrator for operations, NOAA's Fisheries Service

Alan Risenhoover, director, Office of Sustainable Fisheries, NOAA's Fisheries Service Pat Kurkul, northeast regional administrator, NOAA's Fisheries Service

Dr. Roy Crabtree, southeast regional administrator, NOAA's Fisheries Service

Dr. Sam Pooley, director, Pacific Islands Fisheries Science Center, NOAA's Fisheries Service Dr. Mark Holliday, director of policy for NOAA's Fisheries Service, will serve as the executive director. Justin Kenney, NOAA director of communications and external affairs, and John Gray, NOAA director of legislative affairs, are ex-officio members of the task force.

The task force has five objectives:

To develop a new NOAA policy on catch shares that ensures that catch shares are fully considered when councils take up fishery management plan amendments.

To make sure that councils that want to move forward with catch shares have the technical and administrative support to move quickly to design a catch share systems while empowering local fishermen to be part of the process.

To make sure that catch share designs achieve the best possible environmental and economic performance by supporting healthy ecosystems, reducing bycatch and habitat damage, and helping to meet annual catch limits.

To consider whether any organizational changes are needed within NOAA to provide the best possible communication and support.

To provide advice to the under secretary on how to allocate resources to the councils to support this work, and how to create milestones so that progress can be evaluated.

The task force will identify the impediments to the full consideration or implementation of catch shares. In continuing discussions with the councils over the next two months, the task force will work to resolve any funding, policy, legal, and infrastructure issues that are hindering progress.

Discussion of these issues will identify any needed changes in NOAA and council capacity, and help specify the requirements to support the design and implementation of effective catch share programs including where investments in research, monitoring, policy, decision analysis and/or new technology are needed. Based on input from members of the task force, Medina will submit findings and recommendations to Dr. Lubchenco by Aug. 1.

June 23, 2009 - A new study suggests that there is a huge gap between the verbal commitments of governments to policy such as the UN's Code of Conduct for Responsible Fisheries, and there actual practice. In looking at all fishery management regimes around the world the authors found that 93% did not have scientific management capabilities, and 99% did not have effective mechanisms to ensure compliance with scientific requirements.

However, since the study was done based on the number of separate EEZ's rather than by the relative size of the EEZ's, it presented a more pessimistic picture than might otherwise be seen.

In fact, the authors showed in a final illustration, combining their factors for fisheries sustainability, that a significant portion of the EEZ's do in fact have the best chance for long term sustainable outcomes.

According to the most recent report on the status of the world's fisheries by the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization, fisheries supply at least 15% of the animal protein consumed by humans, provide direct and indirect employment for nearly 200 million people worldwide and generate $US85 billion annually. This same report indicates that 28% of the world's fisheries stocks are currently being overexploited or have collapsed and 52% are fully exploited.

A new study published in this week's issue of PLoS Biology provides the first global evaluation of how management practices influence fisheries' sustainability. The study assessed the effectiveness of the world's fisheries management regimes using evaluations from nearly 1,200 fisheries experts, analyzing these in combination with data on the sustainability of fisheries catches. The results indicate that most fisheries management regimes are lagging far behind standards set by international organizations, and that the conversion of scientific advice into policy, through a participatory and transparent process, plays the most critical role in determining the sustainability of fisheries.

'The world's fisheries are one of the most important natural assets to humankind,' says lead author Camilo Mora, a Colombian researcher at Dalhousie University and the University of California San Diego. 'Unfortunately, our use of the world's fisheries has been excessive and has led to the decline or collapse of many stocks.'

'The consequences of overexploiting the world's fisheries are a concern not only for food security and socio-economic development but for ocean ecosystems,' says Boris Worm, a professor at Dalhousie University and co-author of the paper. 'We now recognize that overfishing can also lead to the erosion of biodiversity and ecosystem productivity.'

'The different socioeconomic and ecological consequences associated with declining fish stocks are an international concern and several initiatives have been put forward to ensure that countries improve the way they use their marine resources,' explains Mora. 'Some of these initiatives include the United Nations Code of Conduct for Responsible Fisheries, the Convention on Biological Diversity, and the Millennium Ecosystem Assessment. Although these initiatives have been endorsed by most governments, a global assessment on the extent to which these ideals are actually implemented and effective remains lacking.'

Mora and his colleagues analyzed a set of attributes upon which country-level fisheries could be evaluated. They pinpointed six parameters, including the scientific quality of management recommendations, the transparency of converting recommendations into policy, the enforcement of policies, the influence of subsidies, fishing effort, and the extent of fishing by foreign entities. To quantify those attributes the researchers developed a questionnaire designed to elicit worst- to best-case answers. The survey was translated into five languages and distributed to over 13,000 fisheries experts around the world. Nearly 1,200 evaluations were used in the study. The responses of the surveyed experts were compared to, and found to be in accordance with, empirical data, supporting the validity of the data obtained in the study.

The results of this global survey showed that 7% of all coastal states carry out rigorous scientific assessment for the generation of management policies, 1.4% also have a participatory and transparent process to convert scientific recommendations into policy, and less than 1% also implement mechanisms to ensure the compliance with regulations. No one country was additionally free of the effects of excess fishing capacity, subsidies or access to foreign fishing.

'Perhaps the most striking result of our survey was that not a single country in the world was consistently good with respect to all these management attributes. So which countries are doing well and which are not is a question whose answer depends on the specific attribute you are looking at,' says Mora.

The results of the study show that wealthier countries, though they have predominantly better science and enforcement capabilities, face the negative repercussions of excessive subsidies and larger fishing capacity, which have resulted largely from increased modernization of national fleets. In contrast, poorer countries largely lacked robust science and enforcement capabilities and although these nations have less fishing capacity nationally, they disproportionally sold fishing rights to nations that did. The study showed that in 33% of the coastal states classified as low-income (commonly countries in Africa and Oceania) most fishing is carried out by foreign fleets from either the European Union, South Korea, Japan, China, Taiwan or the United States. The only attribute in which poorer and wealthier countries overlapped significantly was their limited ability to convert scientific recommendations into policy. The mechanism for this pattern, however, was different. Poor countries reportedly struggle with the effects of corruption while wealthier countries often encounter more political or economical pressures.

For the second part of the study, Mora and his colleagues combined the database on management effectiveness with a recently developed index to assess the probability that the catch of a particular country is sustainable or not. This part of the study showed that out of several attributes analysed, the transparency with which scientific recommendations are turned into policy plays the strongest role in the fate of fisheries sustainability.

'Transparent policy-making is at the centre of the entire process,' explains co-author Marta Coll, at the Institut de Cinces del Mar in Spain. 'If this is heavily influenced by political pressures or corruption, it is unlikely that good scientific advice will ever be translated into proper regulations. Similarly, authoritarianism in this process is likely to reduce compliance with the resulting policies.'

'This study provided us with a look at both sides of the coin,' says Andrew Rosenberg at the University of New Hampshire, who was not involved in the study. 'On one hand, it reminds us of the difficult challenges facing fisheries management globally in protecting critical natural resources from overexploitation. On the other hand it delivers a message of hope that when policy-making is transparent, participatory, and based on science, things can improve.

The article is available at http://biology.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=get- document&doi=10.1371/journal.pbio.1000131


[Associated Press] - June 23, 2009 - Two of the most popular and promising dietary supplements - vitamin D and fish oil - will be tested in a large, government-sponsored study to see whether either nutrient can lower a healthy person's risk of getting cancer, heart disease or having a stroke.

The study will be one of the first big nutrition experiments ever to target a specific racial group - blacks, who will comprise one quarter of the participants.

People with dark skin are unable to make much vitamin D from sunlight, and researchers think this deficiency may help explain why blacks have higher rates of cancer, stroke and heart disease.

'If something as simple as taking a vitamin D pill could help lower these risks and eliminate these health disparities, that would be extraordinarily exciting,' said Dr. JoAnn Manson. She and Dr. Julie Buring, of Harvard-affiliated Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston, will co-lead the study.

'But we should be cautious before jumping on the bandwagon to take mega-doses of these supplements,' Manson warned. 'We know from history that many of these nutrients that looked promising in observational studies didn't pan out.'

Vitamins C, E, folic acid, beta carotene, selenium and even menopause hormone pills once seemed to lower the risk of cancer or heart disease - until they were tested in big studies that sometimes revealed risks instead of benefits.

In October, the government stopped a big study of vitamin E and selenium pills for prostate cancer prevention after seeing no evidence of benefit and hints of harm.

Vitamin D is one of the last major nutrients to be put to a rigorous test.

For years, evidence has been building that many people are deficient in 'the sunshine vitamin.' It is tough to get enough from dietary sources like milk and oily fish. Cancer rates are higher in many northern regions where sunlight is weak in the winter, and some studies have found that people with lower blood levels of vitamin D are more likely to develop cancer.

Fish oil, or omega-3 fatty acid, is widely recommended for heart health. However, studies of it so far have mostly involved people who already have heart problems or who eat a lot of fish, such as in Japan. Foods also increasingly are fortified with omega-3, so it is important to establish its safety and benefit.

'Vitamin D and omega-3s have powerful anti-inflammatory effects that may be key factors in preventing many diseases. They may also work through other pathways that influence cancer and cardiovascular risk,' Manson said.

However, getting nutrients from a pill is different than getting them from foods, and correcting a deficiency is not the same as healthy people taking large doses from a supplement.

The new study, which will start later this year, will enroll 20,000 people with no history of heart attacks, stroke or a major cancer - women 65 or older and men 60 or older. They will be randomly assigned to take vitamin D, fish oil, both nutrients or dummy pills for five years.

The daily dose of vitamin D will be about 2,000 international units of D-3, also known as cholecalciferol, the most active form. For fish oil, the daily dose will be about one gram - five to 10 times what the average American gets.

Participants' health will be monitored through questionnaires, medical records and in some cases, periodic in-person exams.

'We're hoping to see a result during the trial, that we won't have to wait five years' to find out if supplements help, Manson said.

Researchers also plan to study whether these nutrients help prevent memory loss, depression, diabetes, osteoporosis and other problems, Buring said.

The $20 million study will be sponsored by the National Cancer Institute, with the National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute and other federal agencies. Pharmavite LLC of Northridge, Calif., is providing the vitamin D pills, and Ocean Nutrition Canada Ltd. of Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, is providing the omega-3 fish oil capsules.

Copyright 2009 The Associated Press

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